{"id":14998,"date":"2018-10-05T16:57:00","date_gmt":"2018-10-05T15:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/?p=14998"},"modified":"2018-10-05T18:44:23","modified_gmt":"2018-10-05T17:44:23","slug":"saint-josse-la-replique-de-labstention-du-mr-pour-le-subside-de-la-mosquee-fatih-est-incorrecte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/saint-josse-la-replique-de-labstention-du-mr-pour-le-subside-de-la-mosquee-fatih-est-incorrecte\/","title":{"rendered":"Saint-Josse : la r\u00e9plique de l\u2019abstention du MR pour le subside de la mosqu\u00e9e \u00ab Fatih \u00bb est incorrecte !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Un argument a \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9 \u00e0 maintes reprises dans les m\u00e9dias sociaux comme attaque et contre-attaque par deux partis \u00e0 Saint-Josse\u00a0; le MR et le PS.<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019argument cr\u00e9ant la pol\u00e9mique est repris ci-dessous d\u2019apr\u00e8s le compte-rendu du Conseil communal de Saint-Josse-ten-Noode du 30\/10\/2017, disponible sur le site de Saint-Josse.<\/p>\n<p>MR\u00a0: <em>\u00ab\u00a0Une des associations cultuelles pr\u00e9vue dans les subsides pose question. Il s\u2019agit d\u2019une mosqu\u00e9e sise chauss\u00e9e de Haecht qui \u2013 d\u2019apr\u00e8s nos informations \u2013 d\u00e9pend ou appartient \u00e0 la Diyanet. La Diyanet est une instance officielle d\u00e9pendant imm\u00e9diatement de l\u2019Etat turc. L\u2019ing\u00e9rence de celui-ci, dans son \u00e9volution actuelle, nous fait penser qu\u2019il n\u2019est pas une bonne id\u00e9e de subsidier cette mosqu\u00e9e, s\u2019il est confirm\u00e9 qu\u2019elle d\u00e9pend bien de la Diyanet.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p>PS\u00a0: <em>\u00ab\u00a0Je ne partage pas du tout le point de vue de Monsieur Clerckx. J\u2019\u00e9tais pr\u00e9sent \u00e0 un \u00e9v\u00e9nement organis\u00e9 au mois de juin par la Diyanet, au m\u00eame titre que le bourgmestre de Schaerbeek et le conseiller du Ministre de la Justice. C\u2019est une association qui \u2013 comme les 9 autres \u2013 a pignon sur rue dans ce pays et enti\u00e8rement \u00e9tablie en Belgique avec des statuts en bonne et due forme. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ici, il s\u2019agit d\u2019une mosqu\u00e9e et non pas de la fondation Diyanet. La mosqu\u00e9e est une entit\u00e9 propre qui est rattach\u00e9 \u00e0 la fondation.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Tous les dossiers ont \u00e9t\u00e9 trait\u00e9s de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re, les statuts ont \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9sent\u00e9s et libre aux conseillers de poser des questions \u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>En effet, le MR local s&rsquo;\u00e9tait, \u00e0 cette date, abstenu en faveur du subside communal pour la mosqu\u00e9e \u00ab\u00a0Fatih\u00a0\u00bb malgr\u00e9 la reconnaissance de cette institution par la R\u00e9gion.<\/p>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s investigations aupr\u00e8s de ladite \u00ab\u00a0Diyanet\u00a0\u00bb, nous sommes en mesure de r\u00e9pondre que celle-ci est une association internationale belge bas\u00e9e \u00e0 la chauss\u00e9e de Haecht 67 sur le territoire de Saint-Josse-ten-Noode. Cette association est reconnue par un Arr\u00eat\u00e9 Royal datant du 28 septembre 1982.<\/p>\n<p>D\u2019embl\u00e9e, la Diyanet tranche la question de mani\u00e8re formelle en martelant une explication claire et nette sur le sujet qui nous occupe\u00a0: La \u00ab\u00a0Diyanet\u00a0\u00bb n\u2019accepte en aucun cas que l\u2019une voire plusieurs de ses 73 mosqu\u00e9es fassent l\u2019objet d\u2019une quelconque pol\u00e9mique politique ou \u00eatre l\u2019ingr\u00e9dient d\u2019une quelconque propagande \u00e9lectorale.<\/p>\n<p>Ensuite, dans le but d\u2019apporter des explications officielles et correctives aux arguments du MR 1210, la <em>\u00ab\u00a0Diyanet Belgique\u00a0\u00bb <\/em>n\u2019est absolument pas \u00ab\u00a0<em>une instance officielle d\u00e9pendant imm\u00e9diatement de l\u2019Etat turc\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Elle sera indirectement rattach\u00e9e \u00e0 la \u00ab\u00a0Diyanet Turquie\u00a0\u00bb au m\u00eame titre que les \u00e9glises belges rattach\u00e9es au Vatican. Pour \u00e9viter tout deux poids deux mesures, il faudrait d\u00e8s lors \u00e9mettre des r\u00e9serves quant aux subsides octroy\u00e9s par la commune aux \u00e9glises de St-Josse.<\/p>\n<p>Par exemple, le primat de Belgique est d\u00e9sign\u00e9 directement par le pape qui se trouve, pour rappel, au Vatican.<\/p>\n<p>Or, s\u2019il faut \u00e9loigner <em>\u00ab\u00a0l\u2019ing\u00e9rence\u00bb <\/em>quelconque en Belgique, il faudrait donc commencer par s\u2019inqui\u00e9ter de l\u2019ing\u00e9rence vaticane pour \u00e9viter une \u00e9ventuelle mesure \u00e0 deux vitesses.<\/p>\n<p>A titre d\u2019exemple et a fortiori, le culte anglican, aussi reconnu en Belgique et comme son nom l\u2019indique, est li\u00e9 \u00e0 la Grande-Bretagne donc directement \u00e0 la reine d\u2019Angleterre.<\/p>\n<p>Pour finir, la mosqu\u00e9e <em>\u00ab\u00a0Fatih\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> est une asbl qui a personnalit\u00e9 juridique et qui, par ailleurs, est aussi reconnue selon une ordonnance r\u00e9gionale du gouvernement bruxellois quant aux lieux de cultes \u00e0 Bruxelles.<\/p>\n<p>Aucune mosqu\u00e9e attach\u00e9e \u00e0 la \u00ab\u00a0Diyanet\u00a0\u00bb n\u2019est subsidi\u00e9e ni par l\u2019association belge et encore moins par la Turquie.<\/p>\n<p>Ces mosqu\u00e9es s\u2019autofinancent de mani\u00e8re autarcique et uniquement sur base de dons priv\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>Suite \u00e0 plusieurs tentatives t\u00e9l\u00e9phoniques infructueuses \u00e0 la t\u00eate de liste MR 1210, nous n\u2019avons pu recueillir la version du MR concern\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>source photo : Facebook Fatih camii<\/p>\n<p>E O \/ La Manchette<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un argument a \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9 \u00e0 maintes reprises dans les m\u00e9dias sociaux comme attaque et contre-attaque par deux partis 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