{"id":9664,"date":"2018-02-21T02:32:31","date_gmt":"2018-02-21T01:32:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/?p=9664"},"modified":"2018-02-21T08:32:30","modified_gmt":"2018-02-21T07:32:30","slug":"cimetiere-multiconfessionnel-de-schaerbeek-michel-de-herde-lb-remballe-le-ps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/cimetiere-multiconfessionnel-de-schaerbeek-michel-de-herde-lb-remballe-le-ps\/","title":{"rendered":"Cimeti\u00e8re multiconfessionnel de Schaerbeek: Michel De Herde (LB) remballe le PS !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A l\u2019heure \u00e0 laquelle la p\u00e9tition bruxelloise sign\u00e9e par quasi 5.000 personnes a \u00e9t\u00e9 remise \u00e0 Marc Weber, chef de cabinet du Bourgmestre de Schaerbeek, La Manchette a eu l\u2019exclusivit\u00e9 d\u2019une interview avec Michel De Herde.<\/p>\n<p>De Herde (LB), \u00e9chevin de l\u2019Enseignement communal, du Parascolaire, des Cr\u00e8ches et du Budget schaerbeekois, est l\u2019initiateur de la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un cimeti\u00e8re multiconfessionnel pour la commune de Schaerbeek.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Il y a 20 d\u00e9j\u00e0, quand j\u2019\u00e9tais alors \u00e9chevin de l\u2019Int\u00e9gration Sociale, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 happ\u00e9 par un drame familial. Une famille, issue de l\u2019immigration turque, avait subi la perte d\u2019un enfant dans des conditions criminelles. Les parents, de ce jeune assassin\u00e9, insistaient pour que leur fils soit inhum\u00e9 dans un cimeti\u00e8re selon les rites islamiques.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Il est vrai que dans la majorit\u00e9 des cas, le retour au pays se fait bon gr\u00e9 mal gr\u00e9 dans la soute pressuris\u00e9e d\u2019un avion.\u00a0\u00bb <\/em>explicita Michel De Herde dans l\u2019interview en primeur.<\/p>\n<p>Par ailleurs, on a coutume de dire dans les communaut\u00e9s turque et marocaine majoritairement, que le voyage d\u2019arriv\u00e9e en Belgique s\u2019est fait assis sur un si\u00e8ge d\u2019avion et le retour se fera couch\u00e9 dans la soute d\u2019un avion.<\/p>\n<p>Une rappeuse fran\u00e7aise avait m\u00eame fait une allusion \u00e0 ce ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne en slamant\u00a0:<br \/>\n<em>\u00ab\u00a0<\/em><em>Souvent je pense \u00e0 papa, mon combat<br \/>\nR\u00e9ussir&#8230;pour l&rsquo;envoyer l\u00e0-bas<\/em><em><br \/>\n<\/em><em>Quand j&rsquo;parlais de nos projets<br \/>\nPapa que j&rsquo;aime disait toujours :&rsquo;Inch&rsquo; Allah!&rsquo;<\/em><em><br \/>\n<\/em><em>Son retour au pays s&rsquo;est bien fait en ao\u00fbt&#8230;<br \/>\nMais son voyage s&rsquo;est fait froid dans une soute&#8230;<\/em><em>\u00a0\u00bb <\/em><\/p>\n<p>lyrics de Wallen &amp; Shurik\u2019n\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Ceux qui disent oui\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, Michel De Herde pr\u00f4nait une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 ouverte dans laquelle une insertion voire m\u00eame une inclusion des minorit\u00e9s devait s\u2019op\u00e9rer m\u00eame dans le cadre d\u2019une mort digne en Belgique.<\/p>\n<p>Donc, des rencontres plut\u00f4t \u00e0 connotations religieuses ont \u00e9t\u00e9 entreprises \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque avec le monde associatif musulman et les mosqu\u00e9es de Bruxelles. Des \u2018oul\u00e9mas\u2019 ont m\u00eame \u00e9t\u00e9 consult\u00e9s pour que l\u2019administration communale soit au parfum des rites islamiques mortuaires alors inconnus.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Ensemble avec Jean-Pierre van Gorp (PS), alors \u00e9chevin de l\u2019Etat civil donc responsable du cimeti\u00e8re, nous avons rendu visite aux oul\u00e9mas de l\u2019\u00e9poque. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>3 revendications claires et concises ressortent de ces entretiens\u00a0:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><i><em>Enterrer le musulman dans une terre vierge<\/em><\/i><\/li>\n<li><em>Enterrer le musulman avec la t\u00eate tourn\u00e9e vers la Mecque<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Enterrer le musulman uniquement avec son linceul, ceci constituait une interdiction r\u00e9gionale jadis mais ce dossier est d\u00e9sormais sign\u00e9 apr\u00e8s 4 ans de tractations entre parlement Bruxellois et arr\u00eat\u00e9 minist\u00e9riel bloqu\u00e9 par le ministre-pr\u00e9sident Rudi Vervoort.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s investigations plus pouss\u00e9es aupr\u00e8s du d\u00e9put\u00e9 bruxellois Ahmed EL Khannouss (CdH), il s\u2019av\u00e8re effectivement que les initiateurs principaux de ce sujet bruxellois \u00e9taient Ahmed Mouhssin (Ecolo) et Hamza Fassi-Fihri (CdH). Apr\u00e8s plusieurs ann\u00e9es de jougs politico-politiciens, les deux protagonistes ont quand m\u00eame eu gain de cause dans le dossier \u00e9pineux du linceul qui \u00e9tait sur une ligne rouge entre comp\u00e9tence r\u00e9gionale et f\u00e9d\u00e9rale pour l\u2019ex\u00e9cution.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Au-del\u00e0 de toutes ces consid\u00e9rations, \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque d\u00e9j\u00e0, quelque voix oppos\u00e9es au projet du cimeti\u00e8re multiconfessionnel retentissaient des abymes socialistes au conseil communal de notre commune. Ainsi, Sfia Bouarfa (PS) \u00e9tait parmi les opposants \u00e0 cette nouvelle demande \u00e9manant pourtant des musulmans de Bruxelles. Mais \u00e0 l\u2019instar de toute cette agitation st\u00e9rile, l\u2019id\u00e9e de la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019une intercommunale n\u2019\u00e9tait d\u00e8s lors devenue qu\u2019une modalit\u00e9 pour nous\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Actuellement, 11 communes sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 dans cette volont\u00e9 d\u2019inclusion. Paradoxalement, 8 communes dont 3 g\u00e9r\u00e9es ou cog\u00e9r\u00e9es par le PS ne se sont toujours pas ralli\u00e9es \u00e0 la cause de cette intercommunale de cimeti\u00e8re multiconfessionnel (Anderlecht, Etterbeek et Forest).\u00a0\u00bb <\/em>continue dans son propos le membre du coll\u00e8ge schaerbeekois du parti \u00e0 la couleur amarante.<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019intercommunale multiconfessionnelle, pr\u00e9sid\u00e9e par C\u00e9line Vivier (MR) qui cumulait l\u2019ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re plus de 21 mandats (excusez du peu) dont 12 r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9s\u00a0!, demande son autonomie.<\/p>\n<p>Par ailleurs, comme repris maladroitement sur le site internet de la pr\u00e9sidente\u00a0C\u00e9line Vivier : \u00ab\u00a0<em>Un bulletin de vote est plus fort qu\u2019une balle de fusil. (dixit Abraham Lincoln)<\/em><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\u00bb En effet, un bulletin de vote pour une personne, un mandat sera plus qu\u2019une balle de fusil lors des prochaines \u00e9lections.<\/p>\n<p>Il y a donc des fonctions comme les fossoyeurs schaerbeekois qui triment sur cette parcelle dont la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 est bien schaerbeekoise mais lou\u00e9e \u00e0 l\u2019intercommunale. Une autonomie administrative l\u00e9gitime est donc demand\u00e9e par l\u2019intercommunale.<\/p>\n<p>Mais attention, quand deux cimeti\u00e8res attenants l\u2019un \u00e0 l\u2019autre sont autonomes alors une s\u00e9paration est l\u00e9galement impos\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Ce que Bernard Guillaume entreprend de mani\u00e8re tr\u00e8s maladroite et trop vite. Mais pour le moment, tant que l\u2019intercommunale n\u2019a pas son autonomie effective alors le grillage actuellement fix\u00e9 n\u2019a pas encore de raison d\u2019\u00eatre. Parce que c\u2019est trop t\u00f4t d\u2019une part et d\u2019autre part parce que tout cela est inesth\u00e9tique et qu\u2019une s\u00e9paration peut se convenir avec une haie ou une mani\u00e8re plus douce de s\u00e9parer les deux cimeti\u00e8res.\u00a0\u00bb <\/em>mart\u00e8le encore Michel De Herde.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Enfin et plus important, au lieu de crier haut et fort au scandale, le PS ferait mieux de rallier \u00e0 la cause de l\u2019intercommunale les quelques communes dans lesquelles les musulmans pourraient tirer parti de cet organisme et \u00e9viter de les faire payer le double du tarif quand un d\u00e9c\u00e8s survient\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>En effet, voici les tarifs d\u2019application repris sur le site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.intercommunaleinhumation.be\/pages\/tarifs.html\">www.intercommunaleinhumation.be\/pages\/tarifs.html<\/a> :<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\" rowspan=\"2\"><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>TYPE DE CONCESSION<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>DUREE<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><em>25 ANS<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>50 ANS<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><em>ADULTES<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><em>Tombe individuelle<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>1.200 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>2.150 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td rowspan=\"3\"><em>Tombe familiale<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>1\u00e8re personne<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>1.200 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>2.150 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><em>2\u00e8me personne<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>550 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>950 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><em>3\u00e8me personne<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>550 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>950 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"4\"><em>ENFANTS ( &#8211; 7 ANS )<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><em>Tombe individuelle<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>550 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>950 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td rowspan=\"2\"><em>Tombe familiale<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>1er enfant<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>550 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>950 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><em>2\u00e8me enfant<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>250 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>450 \u20ac<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><em>Ces tarifs correspondent \u00e0 la moyenne des tarifs appliqu\u00e9s dans les cimeti\u00e8res bruxellois. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Si, au cours de ses 10 derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es, le d\u00e9funt n&rsquo;a pas habit\u00e9 au moins 5 ans dans une commune associ\u00e9e, le tarif de sa concession est doubl\u00e9. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Pour finir, le bourgmestre avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 pris l\u2019initiative en \u00e2me et conscience de retirer une partie de ce grillage en raison des multiples entraves \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 routi\u00e8re provoqu\u00e9es par ce grillage qui coupe v\u00e9ritablement une voie de circulation automobile.<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019amorce de cette s\u00e9paration obligatoire par la loi sera plus douce et une haie s\u00e9parant les deux cimeti\u00e8res autonomes pourrait \u00eatre envisag\u00e9e dans les mois qui viennent.<\/p>\n<p>Erkan Ozdemir \/ La Manchette<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-9665\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Erkan-OzdemirIMG_2692-300x201.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Erkan-OzdemirIMG_2692-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Erkan-OzdemirIMG_2692-768x516.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Erkan-OzdemirIMG_2692.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/> <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-9666\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lamanchette.be\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Erkan-OzdemirIMG_2694-300x201.jpg\" alt=\"\" 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